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CENTER of controversy Some say the Idaho Center is an investment in the community, others call it a waste of tax dollars

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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:00 am

Is the Idaho Center a community asset or a money pit?

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7 comments:

  • Hubert posted at 8:34 am on Mon, Jul 15, 2013.

    Hubert Posts: 541

    Frontage along the Street to the West is worth big bucks. Why not either sell or long term lease this valuable real estate with a provision that their parking lot on the backside of this property could be used in the extremely rare times it would be needed. Also, 13 Acres to the East which at the present time has no access. If it is not going to be used return it too the tax roles.

     
  • replevin posted at 5:17 pm on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    replevin Posts: 92

    Beth Inek THINKS the horse park does not pay for itself. Why doesn't she know. Don't tell me because they don't break out individual parts of the complex, that excuse wore thin 10 years ago. If the Idaho Center was making money it wouldn't matter,it isn't.. It is time each part is judged separately and the parts losing money excised. With city services in that corner it would have developed without the Idaho Center. Giving the Idaho Center credit for all of the development on and around that corner is a deceit that the Mayor and his minions have used for years.

     
  • Trebuchet posted at 12:55 pm on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    Trebuchet Posts: 408

    I would like to thank the Idaho Press Tribune for this story. It will no doubt give people a reason to think about ways to hold elected and appointed officials accountable. Right now the only vehicle is the ballot box.

     
  • Trebuchet posted at 12:47 pm on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    Trebuchet Posts: 408

    The Idaho Center was built out of the hubris of a few people who failed to make any kind of business plan. At the same time they failed to ask a basic question: Who is our customer for the Idaho Center? Additionally, to credit the Idaho Center as the catalyst for the shopping center and the car dealers is just another case "if not for urban renewal". The reality is the off ramp and visibility are more than likely the reasons for the aforementioned business ventures along with all the concessions (give aways of tax dollars) granted to the developers we don't hear about.

    Nampa's Idaho Center will never compete with venues in Boise for a basic reason... Location, Location , Location, to the customer. The highest and best use for the Idaho Center is to moth ball it and open it once a year for the Stampede. It is a monument to what is wrong with URBAN RENEWAL... LACK OF VOTER OVERSIGHT.

     
  • unitsdad posted at 9:45 am on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    unitsdad Posts: 455

    The Idaho center, public safety "palace" and the library etc. are examples of someone buying a new car that they can't afford in the first place and then being unable to afford to fill up the tank.
    Career politicians such as Tom Dale, Tammy Deweerd, and Dave Bieter are simply using someone else s money to build their legacies and their egos.

     
  • Harriman posted at 9:09 am on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    Harriman Posts: 196

    The Idaho Center was built without the permission of the taxpayers on a promise to rebuild the Snake River Stampede Rodeo Grounds with 2- $12 million dollar bonds. The result is that we now have an enclosed arena that cost over $60 million and with the Equestrian center another $5 million+-. The first Urban Renewal took in over $82 million in its 10 year existence and most of it was spent on this venture and raised property taxes $357.00 per $100 thousand of assed value. The Urban Renewal Agency did not finish its work and left Garrity at another $8 million which was then finished by a vote of the taxpayers who authorized the General Obligation Bond that built Kings Corner Overpass and put in the underground infrastructure (sewer, water and roads, etc.) that allowed The Treasure Valley Market Place to be built wherein at this date all of the taxes from the Treasure Valley Market Place are now going to the New Urban Renewal District and being used, not to reduce the taxpayers burden, but build the new Safety Building (Police Station) and the new Library which will use a minimum of $70 million of your tax dollars over the next 20 years and has raised Nampa’s levy rate to the highest in the State of Idaho of any city with a population over 50 thousand.
    Nampa should sell the Idaho Center. I told Mayor Dale when we beat the first Urban Renewal District when he asked, “What should we do with the Idaho Center?”, that he should give it to someone. The reason for this is that if the Idaho Center with an assessed value of $60 million were in private hands it would produce at our present levy rate of 2.5% (which is also due to our “New Urban Renewal District) over $1.5 million in taxes which would give the city a $3 million dollar raise in tax revenue instead of a $1.4 million deficit.
    Bureaucrats do not belong in business. Fire Mayor Dale this fall and try to recover a valuable business community that he has lost.

     
  • Hubert posted at 8:16 am on Sun, Jul 14, 2013.

    Hubert Posts: 541

    Not all investments make money and it is true the Idaho Center has become a money pit with a noticeable lack of patronage to enjoy it. The generation of additional tax dollars from Wallmart and car lots have not solved the financial problems of the city. Many of the businesses near the Idaho Center used to be downtown so where is the focus now--rebuilding downtown. Delegation of solving the fiasco to a board or Beth Ineck is an abdication of what the chief administrator of the city is paid to do. Solve these problems. I would note the editorial board of the Press-Tribune had no suggestions either. At a time when our City Police are saying they are understaffed it is unconscionable that the money is still poured into the Idaho Center. A tuff decision to close at least part of it down. Yes--but until the Mayor comes up with a better plan it is his baby. Perhaps people are paying so many taxes they don't have money left for outside entertainment .

     
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