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Nampa City Council needs more time to consider Mercy Hospital project

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Posted: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:01 am | Updated: 11:59 am, Fri Mar 1, 2013.

NAMPA — The City Council heard from 12 people Tuesday, concerned about a proposal to use urban renewal to help reimburse the costs of a project to renovate the long-vacant former Mercy Hospital building into affordable senior housing units.

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11 comments:

  • atbracr posted at 3:17 pm on Sat, Feb 23, 2013.

    atbracr Posts: 5

    he was not a Senior Vice President of CDI

     
  • Hubert posted at 1:11 pm on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Hubert Posts: 535

    You should do your homework. 13 months ago in late December 2011 a story by Jamie Anfenson-Coneau in Eunice, Louisiana Jerry Gunstream is identified as a Senior Development Officer of Community Development Inc. in which he notified the city council in a letter that its Eunice project was rejected for funding by the Louisiana Housing Finance Agency. In the same article In March 2008, Community Development president CEO Fred Cornforth had announced the expected construction to begin within 60 days---hmmm--must be a bit more than 60 days. Also, there is mention of a $ 1 million Federal Capital advance in 2006.. Perhaps you could explain what happenned to that money as project has not even been started in 2012.
    In Minot, N.D. in an article by Jill Schramm dated February 2, 2011 in a presentation in Minot, Jerry Gunstream is identified as a company representative of Community Development Inc..
    On August 24, 2011 in an article by Rachel Snow, Jerry Gunstream Senior Vice President of CDI formally approached Rexburg, Idaho City Council with a request.....

     
  • atbracr posted at 9:52 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    atbracr Posts: 5

    Building a brand new house on an empty lot is not a good cost comparison to the restoration of a building built in 1918...

     
  • atbracr posted at 9:49 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    atbracr Posts: 5

    No

     
  • Trebuchet posted at 9:47 am on Fri, Feb 22, 2013.

    Trebuchet Posts: 408

    I am old enough to remember when it was very common for children to take in their parents when they got older. And for that matter it was not uncommon for kids to live at home for a good long while until they were financially able to move out. Grandparents would take in other siblings who were widowed or iving alone.

    Today, the norm is everyone needs to have a separate living place and if it takes tax subsidies to support this nobody seems to care. It is my position people who did not plan for their future need not expect subsidized housing and other burdens on younger people.

     
  • Erik Makrush posted at 6:57 pm on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Erik Makrush Posts: 9

    Having worked on the issue for several years at the Idaho Legislature in an effort to bring sideboards to the out of control spending and methods of Urban Renewal it is somewhat refreshing to see that the council is listening to the people. We need reforms that will prevent a runaway agency from taking money in the form of tax dollars and giving it to special projects. For projects that have been highlighted around the state over the past couple of years, go to the Idaho Freedom Foundation website (www.idahofreedom.net) and click on the Report on Govt. Waste.

     
  • Deano posted at 10:17 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Deano Posts: 73

    The ONLY reason that this would work at all is the multitude of tax credits and grants! The question as I see it is: Does the city of Nampa really want to be a part of the "TAKERS" of the nation, which are the reason for the coming national financial crises (16 1/2 trillion debt.) This would continue as the government would subsidise the senior housing!
    What happenes when the government wakes up to the fact we are broke!!!
    The city seems to be on the verge of taking my state and federal tax money to convince me that I have gotten something for nothing! I don't want to be forced into NEEDING subsidised housing because I got so much for nothing!
    I trust that the adults on the city council will have the character to vote no on this boondoggle!

     
  • Trebuchet posted at 9:55 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Trebuchet Posts: 408

    This project is emblematic of how the "MAGIC OF URBAN RENEWAL really works.
    Only with Urban Renewal can a project costing over $8MM and end up with an assessed value of only $2MM get financed. What in the world are these people thinking? The winner in this effort is the developer, the losers are Nampa property taxpayers and every other property taxpayer of Canyon County.

     
  • Trebuchet posted at 9:52 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Trebuchet Posts: 408

    This project is emblematic of how the "MAGIC OF URBAN RENEWAL

     
  • Harriman posted at 8:22 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Harriman Posts: 194

    This is a typical big government plan,in which $8.3 million dollars will be taken from U.S. Taxes, $3.3 million of this money will be borrowed from China and others, and will become part of our national debt.
    this is not a reasonable economic project for Nampa nor the Taxpaying citizens of Nampa.
    At this date the average price of a home in Nampa is around $105 thousand dollars. The $8.3 million dollar proposed cost of the Old Mercy Hospital conversion into senior housing would purchase 79, 1400 square foot homes which would also produce $207 thousand dollars in added property tax relief per year at our present property tax rate as projected by the Idaho State Tax Commission of 2.5%. This rate, incidentally, is the highest property tax rate in the state of Idaho for cities with a population of over 50 thousand.
    The Old Mercy Hospital has 45,000 square feet and according to media reports when finished will provide 50 living units, of approximately 810 square feet in size.
    The developers projected cost for this project is $155 dollars per square foot or slightly less than $166 thousand dollars per living unit. These factors, if applied to the typical 1,400 square foot house in Nampa would make that house cost $217,800 dollars, $112,800 dollars more than present residential average and $108,600.00 more than present construction costs. Today the market value of a similarly sized 810 square foot home in this area of Nampa is plus or minus $57 thousand dollars. The Mercy project’s 50 units will cost 2.9 times the cost of similar units available for sale as of this date.
    This type of incompetent, wasteful, public planning is typical of big government, not of Idaho. It is identical and repetitious of the present tax and spend system in Washington D. C. .
    I urge you to stop this economic insanity which has been PREVALENT in Nampa during recent years. It denies the taxpayer the right to vote on projects such as this and has raised the property taxes in Nampa to the highest tax rate in this state. This inhibits business investment and manufacturing development, drives away good jobs from this area and continues to punish the citizens of Nampa with our imposed outrageous tax burden.

     
  • Hubert posted at 8:09 am on Thu, Feb 21, 2013.

    Hubert Posts: 535

    Wasn't Jerry Gunstream a Vice President of the development firm before he went to prison?

     

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