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Don’t look at them as ‘education’ bills

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Posted: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:00 am

When Idaho voters roundly rejected Propositions 1, 2 and 3 — Superintendent Tom Luna’s “Students Come First” education reforms — it was a stinging blow to both Luna and Gov. Butch Otter. After having their proverbial hats handed to them, both promised to start over and gather professionals from a wide range of backgrounds and perspectives to craft a plan to improve K-12 education in Idaho that would have broad support.

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  • tydanmd1 posted at 12:05 pm on Wed, Feb 27, 2013.

    tydanmd1 Posts: 55

    Education should not be treated as if it can be placed into a business model. It best fits in the service model. Why do Private schools out perform Public schools? Because individuals have to pay and be accountable for the education received. My daughter has a friend that goes to a local Private school. A couple years ago they share math problems, each earned an A. Neither teacher was better than the other. Neither curriculum was superior. Schools are relatively the same. Teachers are relatively the same. The difference is parental involvement. As an involved parent, my expectations for my daughter's education is high. She would succeed in the worst school with the worst teacher (is there really a thing). Mostly we just have worst parents. I can't wait for the voucher system. Schools will get their money up front and not be paid just because a body is in the seat. All those uninterested and uninvolved parents will then wonder why their child isn't in school.

  • Sawtooth46 posted at 9:54 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    Sawtooth46 Posts: 911

    Well, unions do have the right to strike in Idaho and they have, at least in Boise. I'm not sure they would get a lot of sympathy in small rural communities. And the point that the Idaho School Board Assn is making is that the teachers work under a contract which carries with it full contractual law. Even if the school district didn't have the money to pay the contract salary, they would be bound to do so or be sued for breach of contract. Any business person that has to manage an operation knows that labor costs are generally the biggest slice of a budget. And are considered the most controlable cost. What the question is can we cut labor cost across the board and keep the classes and programs in place or do we have to lay teachers off, cut classes and programs because they are bound by contracts to pay the teachers left full compensation.

  • I'm4kids posted at 8:31 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    I'm4kids Posts: 73

    My understanding is that it is against the law for Unions to go on strike in Idaho. The editorial board did a great job in writing this editorial. Change is needed! I think teachers are going to be in for some tough times. Look at what will be happening with the Postal cuts. Obama promised the USPS that he did not support 5 day a week delivery and now with the recent announcement the USPS received a letter from Obama that he is in support of the 5 day a week delivery. We will see many without jobs because of the necessary cuts.

    No one is safe and change is needed with education even if many are against it. Something needs to happen. No one wants to see our educators have to live on less but when there less in the budget something has to happen. Just like the USPS.

    Thank you IPT for a great editorial explaining the ins and out of the education laws.

  • Adamsn posted at 3:28 pm on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    Adamsn Posts: 42

    Union dues aren't spent on political activities. The editorial board needs to do better research when creating their opinions.

    Why is it that the school boards are playing the victim? Contract negotiations are just that a negotiation. No one is forcing them to accept unreasonable terms.

    Does anyone in Idaho remember the last time teachers went on strike and forced the district to pay them more? I can't so, where is all this scary Union power that forced district to sign unreasonable contracts?